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Bonjour,

j'ai copié ci-dessous un article que je trouve intéressant, pondéré, 
intelligent et qui pose des questions justes par rapport au phénomène UFO :

December 21, 2004  Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada - Last month in Las Vegas at the 
MJ-12 UFO Crash/Retrieval Conference, Canadian researcher Grant Cameron and I 
talked about several reasons why the U. S. government continues to sustain a 
strict policy of denial about the extraterrestrial phenomenon ­ even while it 
has back engineered physical objects retrieved from several UFO crashes since 
at least the early 1940s (For example, Cape Girardeau, Missouri, in 1941).


Recently Grant told me he is working on a paper for lecture presentations in 
2005 that will list "64 Reasons Why the U. S. Government Hasn't Released 
Truth About UFOs!" His list is not completed, but Grant talked to me for 
Earthfiles and Dreamland about his growing list of non-disclosure reasons (27 
listed below), in spite of his conviction that all humans deserve to know the 
truth about other life in the universe interacting with our planet.
 


Interview:


Grant Cameron, a building facility manager at the University of Manitoba; 
reporter and producer of www.presidentialufo.com, Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada: 
"Why do the people ­ whoever control this ­ why have they decided to cover it 
up? I've made two assumptions:

One is that they are not evil men. They might do evil things. They might be 
deluded or whatever. But I think the majority of them are people who think 
they are doing the best for the American people, or whoever they think they 
are working on behalf. 
Two, the other thing I assume is there is a process of discussion and review. 
There have been numerous discussions about a possible split inside this 
control group alleged to be MJ-12 (Majestic 12 appointed by President Harry 
S. Truman). Supposedly some want to release and some people don't want to 
release. Indirectly working in government here, I know if you are part of 
government, you spend an awful lot of your time with policies and protocols 
and procedures, so I am assuming there is some sort of processed paperwork. 
It might be fifteen levels deep in security, but there is some sort of 
process in which someone has sat down, looked at the whole UFO scene and the 
ET visitations - all the different aspects - and have made a conscious 
decision to say, 'No, we're not going to release it.' 

Then I tried to look at if I were on their side and the prime example I always 
use is if you take an honest man like Jimmy Carter. He went into the White 
House, had seen a UFO, was determined when he got into the White House to 
release the UFO files, went into the White House and it does appear that he 
was briefed on the subject. Then, according to the actress Shirley MacLaine, 
he said that it was true, there were occupants. He wanted to shine the 
'sunshine laws' on the UFO subject to see how the people would react, but 
that he could not and would not. That seems to indicate that he knew what the 
story was and he had decided he couldn't and wouldn't release the UFO 
secrets.


So, what I look at while I'm writing this article and what I've always thought 
about is: If I were given the same briefing that Jimmy Carter was given, 
would I change teams like Jimmy Carter did? We had a guy who actually was on 
our side and went to their side. Why?


IF YOU WERE IN JIMMY CARTER'S SHOES, WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD BE THE REASONS HE 
DECIDED THAT KEEPING EVERYTHING SUPPRESSED IN A POLICY OF DENIAL IS STILL THE 
BEST POLICY?


Jimmy Carter, I think, spelled it out himself why he decided to keep it a 
secret. He made a statement that I think some people have not heard. He 
stated that he was going to release the UFO files, but it had to do with 
national security, secret weapons he referred to, that kind of stuff and 
said, 'I wouldn't release that, but I have no problem releasing the UFO 
files.'


So, if you are a briefer and you wanted to turn the President ­ and every 
President appears to have turned (to non-disclosure side) and every President 
has gone along with this policy.


 


Reasons For Non-Disclosure


1) National security. Basically that sort of goes over all the 64 reasons ­ it 
can encompass all of them, the national security. That's the big one, the 
main one, even though I haven't tried to rate them in terms of importance. 
But national security in terms of ­ if we released weapons information, if 
foreigners get hold of this. The government insiders could easily tie this 
into national security if we release the whole story. So, I think national 
security is number one.


Inside national security, the government's priority is:


2) Weapons development and military's Need-To-Know elite.


3) Technology development lead time.


4) Reverse engineering. Back-engineering of alien technologies from UFO crash 
retrievals and getting those technologies functional in the American space 
and corporate-industrial programs and patents. (See book: The Day After 
Roswell by Lt. Col. Philip J. Corso © 1989.) Trying to get as much done to 
develop this technology before we have to release the truth. A Need To Know 
policy ­ it's a concept that the military has. It's sort of like, 'We're the 
military and we're going to do the thinking and therefore, we have a need to 
know and the general population does not. We are not going to release it 
because it's part of the military. It's our secret. It's not part of what the 
population should know.'


So you get this thing where someone has a TOP SECRET clearance. 'I am special 
and I have this need to know.' You want to maintain this sort of special 
status that you have.


Some of the other ones that I looked at were:


5) Complexity. When you start looking at all the 64 reasons, you realize that 
the UFO situation ­ and a lot of researchers know this, but the public does 
not know this ­ it is actually a very complex subject. It's not simply 'ET's 
are here.' There are all sorts of complications in terms of abductions and 
mutilations and all sort of things, crop circles. The more you look at it the 
more complex it gets. That in itself is more reason why they are trying to 
sit back and understand it better. It's a very complex thing and very hard to 
explain to the people. That would be one of the reasons.


6) Abduction phenomenon. I think that is one of the key reasons they don't 
release. George W. Bush just recently came to Canada. He made a speech in 
Halifax, Nova Scotia. In that speech, he tried to promote the idea that 
Canada should get involved with this space-based-weapons stuff. In there, he 
stated that to keep our people safe, that is the most solemn duty I have. 
Constitutionally, the President is responsible for the protection of the 
American people. Some of the estimates of abduction numbers run to 6 to 8 
million people. I think the President not only does not know how to stop 
abductions, I don't think he even knows why abductions are taking place. So, 
this is the kind of thing that you can't put the President ­ or governments, 
for that matter ­ in front of people to make them look stupid. It's something 
they can't deal with and they are postponing it until they can get control of 
it.


7) Psychological warfare. If you look at the psychological warfare that's 
involved in abductions, this is like candy to intelligence agencies ­ that 
you can actually abduct a foreign leader, go into his mind, find out what he 
is thinking, feed stuff into his mind. This is very powerful stuff they might 
want to work on behind the scenes.


8) Animal mutilations. It sort of confirms the fact that there is an evil 
element to this thing. Even when I researched, people believed they were 
angels of God, people who believed they were angels of the devil. The whole 
mutilation thing gets into the fact there might be an evil element to the 
alien presence.


OR EVEN JUST SURVIVAL THAT DEMANDS GENETIC HARVESTING. AND THE FACT THAT WE 
ARE KEPT IN THE DARK AND UNCONSCIOUS ABOUT OUR PLANET AND ANIMALS AND 
OURSELVES BEING HARVESTED IN AND OF ITSELF HAS A NEGATIVE UNDERBELLY.


Sure, it's scary stuff. The media people could really spin this whole thing to 
make it look very bad.


SO ON OUR LIST, WE START WITH NATIONAL SECURITY, AND THEN WE GO TO ABDUCTIONS 
THAT ARE VERY COMPLEX. AFTER THAT THE WORLDWIDE ANIMAL MUTILATIONS HAVE BEEN 
GOING ON FOR AT LEAST 60 YEARS. AFTER YOU GET PAST THOSE THREE CATEGORIES, 
CAN YOU TICK OFF WHAT OTHER ITEMS YOU HAVE ON YOUR GROWING LIST?


9) Alien cover-up. The aliens are covering up as well, which I'm sure disturbs 
the American government to no end. Why are the aliens not releasing? And yet, 
another one that involves that is: Are the aliens in control? Have the aliens 
made, told the government to cover this thing up? Are they being controlled 
like the "alien masters?" So there is this whole thing that the aliens aren't 
releasing ­ if they are staying in the background and not announcing 
themselves, we're (human governments) not coming out first. There is this 
fear of why the aliens are not there.


MEANING, WHY ARE THEY KEEPING IT SECRET AS WELL?


Exactly, and that makes for distrust. Or that the aliens might have actually 
said, 'You can't release it.' We don't know. There might be something behind 
the scenes where the aliens say you can't release it (because they are) the 
"alien masters.'


10) Government gridlock: The whole thing that Whitley Strieber talked about 
when he interviewed Lawrence Rockefeller. Lawrence Rockefeller, during the 
Clinton administration, had tried to get the Clintons to release the UFO 
story through declassifying everything. The Clintons we know were very 
interested. Hillary was going through third parties to researchers. They were 
very interested. But when Lawrence actually sat down with ­ I think it was 
Hillary. Some people say the President was there, but I don't think he was 
there. Hillary was there and actually went through the briefing (with 
Rockefeller) and described to her why UFOs should be released, why this is an 
important subject. Hillary came back after the briefing the next morning and 
said, 'Don't ever bring up the subject again.'


Part of that was that the Clintons were the people who wanted to release it, 
but they couldn't release it. They already had Monica Lewinsky. They had all 
sorts of scandals going. Hillary had been tied in with this Jean Houston out 
of New York and channeling dead people (Eleanor Roosevelt). It was very 
embarrassing, so it was something that even though they wanted to do it, the 
Clinton Administration, it was a giggle factor thing where they didn't need 
it. It wasn't something that was going to get them anywhere, so they 
basically backed away from trying to force disclosure.


BUT YOUR IMPLICATION IS IN YOUR RESEARCH THAT CLINTON, THE PRESIDENT, DOES 
KNOW MORE ABOUT SOMETHING HAVING TO DO WITH AN EXTRATERRESTRIAL PRESENCE ON 
THE PLANET THAN HE HAS EVER ADMITTED?


Yes, and like everything else ­ people don't realize the President does not 
have so much power. He can't just come in and take an idea and bring it out. 
That's not the way it works. You have to put it through Congress, you have to 
have the backing of Congress. You have to have the lobbyists on your side. 
There are all sorts of different things that are involved. Even though 
Clinton wanted it, I was told inside the CIA that they (Hillary and Bill) 
were both looking. They were very interested in UFOs. They were contacting 
admirals and different people and asking them about UFOs. The Clintons were 
very interested. Even when I was lecturing at the Ozark conference last year, 
one woman came up to me and said her sister owned a barbecue restaurant where 
Bill and Hillary went and that they had a UFO sighting. So, there are all 
these indications of their interest. They asked Webster Hubble to go out and 
get the information on UFOs. They had a number of indications that they tried 
to get it and it was like they kept banging against the wall and finally 
decided it was not worth it and gave up. They gave up on disclosure. They 
tried, but it's the same as Jimmy Carter tried.


IF CLINTON AND CARTER WERE UNACCEPTABLE TO THE MJ-12 POWER CONTROLLERS ON THE 
EXTRATERRESTRIAL BIOLOGICAL ENTITY STORY, WOULDN'T YOU THINK THAT GEORGE W. 
BUSH, THE CURRENT PRESIDENT, WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE BECAUSE OF HIS CONSERVATIVE 
STANCE? IF SO, DO YOU THINK THERE IS ANY CHANCE THAT THIS ET STORY, THE TRUTH 
ABOUT IT OR AT LEAST THE BEGINNING TRUTH, COULD OPEN UP IN THIS SECOND ROUND 
OF THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION?


I don't think so because of this: the Democrats want disclosure. It's like 
Bill Clinton ­ he talked about his new library that has a lot of glass and a 
lot of light and this is to show that the Clinton Administration was an open 
administration. They declassified 800 million pages of documents. That was 
their thing. So was Jimmy Carter. The vast majority of documents we have 
today came out during the Carter Administration. So, they wanted openness, 
but because they were not liked by the military, they were cut out of the 
loop. The Republicans, on the other hand, they have the power and association 
with high ends of the military. The problem is that they work in an aspect of 
secrecy. Dick Cheney, for example, the Vice President, one of his ideas is if 
you have the three branches of government - the judiciary, the legislative 
and the executive - he wants the executive branch to be stronger. Therefore, 
you have a policy of no disclosure of any conversations of anything that goes 
on inside the executive White House.


And that is the policy the Bush Administration has used. You want to work on 
UFOs in secrecy because you don't want to air your dirty laundry, the things 
that are going on, the disagreements, the things that are not working. You 
want to work in secrecy and keep it away from other nations. That's the 
mentality that the Republican Administration seems to have, sort of a 
paranoid mentality about the fact that the world is out to get us and there 
are evil forces in the world and we are called by God to do this. You saw it 
in the Reagan Administration and in this Bush Administration. That's why even 
though they have the power ­ George W. Bush made Roswell jokes ­ when he went 
to Roswell, he made the joke about the unidentified object over town that 
morning and then jokingly said, 'Oh, no, that was me in Air Force One.'


So he knows the story, he makes little jokes about it. He probably knows ­ but 
for him he would definitely see it as an aspect of military weapons 
development, back engineering, the fact that we have terrorism. This might 
help us to fight terrorism and North Korea and all the enemies we have around 
the world. To do it, we have to do it in secrecy. We can't be leaking stuff 
out. I think Dick Cheney is a big part of keeping things secret.


YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT WHAT SEEMS TO BE A PRETTY CLEAR INDICATION THAT 
4-STAR GENERAL WESLEY CLARK HAS HAD SOME KIND OF BRIEFING ON THE UFO STORY. 
IF HE HAS, WOULDN'T CHENEY, WOULDN'T BUSH, WOULDN'T THE CURRENT HIGH RANKING 
PEOPLE IN THE WHITE HOUSE, ALL HAVE HAD A BRIEFING AS WELL?


Yes, I think all those people have been briefed. I asked Vice President Cheney 
right after he came into the White House. I asked the briefing question: 'Mr. 
Cheney, in all your jobs in government, have you ever been briefed on the 
subject of UFOs? If so, when was it and what were you told?'


And he said, 'If I had been briefed on that subject' ­ he did not mention the 
name, he said 'that subject' ­ 'it probably would have been classified and I 
wouldn't be talking about it.' That comes down to the military aspect that 
it's tied into national security. You have to have security in these programs 
and I'm going to play the good role and not going to talk about it.


Wesley Clark was more indirect and tried to talk around the subject ­ the same 
as George Bush, Sr. He was asked on the campaign trail ­ and he had been 
Director of Central Intelligence ­ the bushes are seen as very strong 
leaders, going to war. But Bush when he came in was seen as a very weak Vice 
President. he had been Director of the CIA. When he was asked by Charles 
Hufford, 'Come on, you were CIA Director. You know what's going on. Are you 
going to release the UFO information?' He said, 'Yes, I know a little bit.' 
Almost what Wesley Clark had said, 'Yes, I know a little bit about what's 
going on.'


SO NATIONAL SECURITY KEEPS COMING AROUND FULL CIRCLE AS ONE OF THE MAIN 
REASONS WHY THIS COVER-UP HAS BEEN PERPETUATED FOR AT LEAST 60 YEARS FROM THE 
TRUMAN ADMINISTRATION, MAYBE EVEN BEFORE. AND THE ANIMAL MUTILATIONS AND 
ABDUCTION SYNDROME COMPLICATE THE ABILITY OF THIS GOVERNMENT, OR ANY 
GOVERNMENT, TO OPEN UP THIS COMPLEX AND POSSIBLY DANGEROUS SUBJECT. ON YOUR 
LIST OF TRYING TO SAY 64 REASONS FOR WHY THE POLICY OF DISCLOSURE SHOULD 
STILL BE IN PLACE, WHAT ELSE IS ON YOUR LIST?


11) Population resistance. The fact that the population will resist any sort 
of attempt to integrate aliens into society. They fear this. some of these 
things are what people fear, they are not 100% sure, but we are better off 
just leaving off. That's something government insiders are scared of ­ 
population resistance.


12) Collapse in belief systems. It's scientific people who are going to really 
take a bath on suddenly realizing the vast majority of things they believed 
are wrong.


13) Religious collapse. How are the Arabs going to deal with this, for 
example? You can't just look at Americans. Worldwide, how are different 
cultures going to deal with this whole scenario?


14) Past lying statements. The fact that you are tied into lying for 60 years, 
you are sort of stuck. You have to keep telling one lie to cover up the other 
lies of the past.


15) Old style conservatives. This is not a big issue. But, basically it's that 
in religions, you have old style conservatives who resist. Thus, new ideas 
aren't born; old ideas just die way. More and more of the young people 
believe in ETs and the older people don't want new concepts. It's 
conservatives that are blocking release of different truths.


16) Kick backs and profits. Behind the scenes is probably a very highly 
classified program and there is probably a lot of money exchanging hands, a 
lot of kickbacks, a lot of people who are going to fight tooth and nail to 
keep the system the way it is because there are a lot of people making money 
on the technology and what's going on. They are not going to give that up 
without a fight.


17) Loss of power. Whether it's government or people running the thing, you 
are going to lose if the system changes with the release of the 
extraterrestrial truth. The people who are in power now are no longer going 
to be in power. That's almost for certain. These people don't want the power 
to shift away from them.


18) Dependence on oil. The entire economy is based on oil. It's the whole fact 
that if we are so dependent, so used to oil-driven engines, that we can't 
break that tie. We are so reliant upon oil it's almost like an addiction to a 
drug. Another big reason tied to oil is:


19) Crash of the stock market. I believe the stock market would crash. I was 
first warned about this when I used to study the guy, Wilbert Smith, who used 
to run the Canadian government's UFO program. One of his close associates was 
a military scientist who did the metallurgy work when pieces came up from the 
United States to Canada to be analyzed. He did the metallurgic work. I had a 
number of interviews with him back in the 1970s. He sort of stopped the 
conversation and said, 'Grant, let me tell you something. I want to warn you 
about something. If you know they are going to disclose the UFO story 
tomorrow morning, I'm telling you, I'm warning you, sell everything you've 
got today because tomorrow nothing is going to be worth anything. When you 
think about that, it's actually true. The stock market works because people 
are going to buy stocks according to what they think a stock will be worth 
tomorrow. You want to make money on it. If you think a stock is going to be 
worth less tomorrow, you're not going to buy the stock. As soon as the UFO 
truth is released, stocks become worth literally nothing. Everybody who has 
oil stocks will start to sell. Anyone who feels tied in, whether it's the car 
industry, anything that has to do with engines ­ they are going to figure 'I 
have to get out before my thing melts down.'


So, why would the President and his advisers rock the boat? Why would they 
take the big chance? We are doing OK. Let's spend another ten years, we can 
get another pile of answers to abductions, mutilations, back-engineering ET 
technologies and all the different things we're working on. If you disclose 
ten years from now, we'll be a lot farther ahead in dealing with the problems 
we're going to have and in back-engineering the technology than we are right 
now. 'So, Mr. President, why take the chance? Why would you go out on the 
limb and risk people panicking?'"

How Does U.S. Government Reverse
 Its Policy of Lies and Denials About ETs


YOU CAN HEAR THAT DISCUSSION DECADE AFTER DECADE FROM TRUMAN AT LEAST UP TO 
THE CURRENT DAY. GRANT, WHAT HAS CHANGED - IF ANYTHING - THAT MIGHT OPEN UP 
THE TRUTH ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT ALONE IN THE UNIVERSE AND THAT THERE 
HAVE BEEN OTHER INTELLIGENCES INTERACTING WITH THIS PLANET FOR MILLENNIA? 
WHAT WOULD REVERSE THE LIES AND OPEN UP THAT TRUTH - LET'S SAY IN THE NEXT 20 
YEARS?


Good question. I don't know. Basically, I think you are talking the same 
things that have held it up. I can't really see ­ unless they make a mistake. 
My idea is to get a high ranking leader who has been briefed and confirms the 
fact he was briefed, which leads you to a date, a briefing date, where you 
can get a document. The document will have the truth, not the misinformation 
they are putting out. It will have the actual truth of what is going on.


Government is very short-sighted. It's very 'Let's do things for the next four 
years.' There is no long term thought inside of government because it is very 
vote-oriented. I always say they look at the shortest distance between two 
votes.


GRANT, WHAT YOU ARE JUST SUMMARIZING INDIRECTLY IS THE FACT THAT IT WILL 
PROBABLY BE ANOTHER 60 YEARS BEFORE ANY OF THE REAL TRUTH WILL OPEN UP ON 
THIS PLANET.


Yes, unless there is some sort of accident, a crash retrieval they can't 
control, or some aspect where somebody gets the idea that this is for real ­ 
some media that is not controlled by the government. And I think a lot of 
them are controlled by the government. Somebody might break ranks and say 
we're going to put this story out, we're going to do it and it snowballs from 
there. It has to be something outside the ordinary because right now, it's 
status quo. Things are going along, no one is asking any questions, no one 
seems to be interested. It really doesn't get into the media.


THAT'S THE HUMAN SIDE OF THE EQUATION. FOR A MOMENT, WHAT IS YOUR PRIVATE, 
PERSONAL OPINION ABOUT WHY ON THE NON-HUMAN SIDE OF THE EQUATION, THERE WOULD 
NOT BE SOME KIND OF BLATANT PRESENTATION THAT WOULD PULL THE RUG OUT FROM 
UNDER OUR GOVERNMENT AND ALL GOVERNMENTS OF THE PLANET?


You hear about the concept of universal law that you can't interfere with 
someone else's evolution. They are sitting back and watching. You'll see a 
number of cases ­ Bentwaters and Rendlesham Forest, for example. When we were 
in Las Vegas, this discussion about the fact that the alien presence there 
sent a beam down through all this concrete and metal and disarmed the nuclear 
weapons the Americans had in the United Kingdom that should not have been 
there. The aliens are basically sitting on the sidelines and will step in if 
there is a nuclear war. But otherwise, they are going to let us make the 
mistakes that we have. They are going to have gradual disclosure as well. 
They are sort of indicating indirectly to us through people who get 
discredited that there is an alien presence, and allowing people to gradually 
acclimatize themselves to the fact that they are there. They must realize the 
same thing about panic and all those issues.


BUT, ISN'T THERE AN IMMEDIATE CONTRADICTION TO THAT PERSPECTIVE IN THE VERY 
EXISTENCE OF HUMAN ABDUCTIONS AND ANIMAL MUTILATIONS WHICH ARE PHYSICAL 
INTRUSIONS IN HUMANS AND ANIMALS?


But it's still done in the background. It's not like the aliens take 500 
cattle and fly into downtown New York City and drop them where everyone can 
see them. It's still done in the background. it's very indirect. You and I 
can link it. We put the pieces together, but it's not directly linked for the 
public. It's sort of done indirectly. It's like you are trying to prove that 
it's going on. I've always said that if they wanted to announce themselves, 
they could announce themselves. They could land in 5 or 6 cities all at the 
same time. They could control the whole thing and come out and say, 'Here we 
are.' And they don't. That's what scares the government. That's my impression 
of why the aliens don't: there is a law of non-interference. This is 
disagreed with in the animal mutilations and abductions which confuse me as 
well ­ how does this fit in? It's like a little bit of interference with our 
evolution, but it's sort of passes like an exception to the rule. It confuses 
me.


WHAT SHOULD ALSO BE ON OUR LIST IS THE COMPLEXITY OF AGENDAS AND THE FACT THAT 
IT SEEMS TO BE INCREASINGLY CLEAR THERE ARE MANY MORE THAN ONE INTELLIGENCES 
INTERACTING WITH OUR PLANET. ONCE YOU GET A CLEAR FOCUS ON MORE THAN ONE 
INTELLIGENCE, AND THAT THERE ARE MORE AGENDAS, THEN THE COMPLEXITY RATCHETS 
UP SO HIGH THAT FOR ANY OF US HUMANS, INCLUDING THE GOVERNMENT, TO UNDERSTAND 
WHAT ANY ONE INTELLIGENCE AND ITS AGENDA MIGHT BE IS ALMOST NOT POSSIBLE FOR 
HUMANS THAT ARE LIVING ON THIS EARTH.


20) Alien agenda incomprehensible. Yes, and that's one of the big reasons ­ 
the government does not fully understand the alien agenda ­ that the aliens 
haven't made it public to the government. It might in the end be a take over. 
That cold be one of the scenarios, through abductees and through genetic 
manipulation, that they are going to interbreed and take over. That is always 
one of the scenarios.


21) Alien intelligences deceive. ONE GUY WHO WORKED FOR THE MILITARY AND INTEL 
TOLD ME BACK IN THE EARLY 1980S, 'LINDA, THE GREYS LIE TO US. WE KNOW THEY 
LIE.' THAT CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD BECAUSE I THINK THE NAIVE IMPRESSION MOST 
HUMANS HAVE IS THAT SOMETHING FROM SOME PLACE ELSE IN THE UNIVERSE THAT IS 
ADVANCED ENOUGH TO TRAVEL FROM FAR AWAY TO GET HERE WOULD SOME HOW BE MORE 
MENTALLY, SPIRITUALLY ADVANCED AND THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE MANIPULATION OR 
DECEPTION OR LIES.


That's one thing about the aliens. They don't seem to be much more spiritually 
advanced than we are.


OR AT LEAST SOME OF THEM. THEN YOU TALK TO SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD 
INTERACTIONS WITH OTHER INTELLIGENCES THAT SEEM TO BE VERY ADVANCED AND MORE 
INTERESTED IN SPIRITUAL EVOLUTION THAN ANYTHING PHYSICAL. IT'S THIS 
COMPLEXITY, THIS CONFUSION, THAT REIGNS AS MUCH AT THE END OF 2004 AS WE HEAD 
INTO 2005 AS IT DID BACK IN 1947.


22) Government does not know what to do about ETs. Yes, and back in 1950, one 
of the reasons that ties in with this: Wilbert Smith ran the Canadian 
government's flying saucer investigation. He talked a number of times about 
why the government had covered it up and he said it was very simple: They 
(govt) did not know what to do. He said that when they realized the existence 
of the saucers and people from elsewhere, they didn't know what to do about 
it, couldn't control it, and they closed their eyes and hoped it would go 
away.' They simply did not know what to do. That is one of the things: they 
are throwing their hands up, it's out of their control and the best thing is 
not to let everybody know you can't control it.


AND TO HOPE THAT IT GOES AWAY ­ WHAT A NAIVE POSITION! ESPECIALLY 60 YEARS 
LATER, REALIZING THAT ANIMAL MUTILATIONS AND HUMAN ABDUCTIONS AND A MYRIAD 
OTHER MORE COMPLEX PIECES OF EVIDENCE THAT SOMETHING INTERACTS WITH OUR 
PLANET AND IS STILL HERE, NOT GOING AWAY, AND WHEN IS THIS WORLD GOING TO BE 
TOLD THE TRUTH?


Yes. And another reason for non-disclosure that I have is:


23) Nationalism. Especially when you consider that the U. S has a lot of the 
UFO technology and a lot of nationalism. If you go to a world view of aliens 
versus us, nationalism is out. But nationalism is a big thing in the USA. If 
you are the American government, it's hard to accept your government is not 
going to exist anymore. It's going to be a world government and you're just 
going to be a little puppet doing what you are being told by a world 
government. So, nationalism is something the USA does not want to give up.


 


The Brookings Institution 1961 Report


24) Advanced intelligences absorb/defeat less advanced intelligences. The 
Brookings study on the implications of discovery of extraterrestrial life and 
intelligence talked about extinction. This is the idea that if you get an 
advanced civilization and a non-advanced civilization (which would be us), 
the one that is less advanced could become extinct. 

Editor's Note: Page 215 of Peaceful Space Activities for Human Affairs by The 
Brookings Institution, dated April 18, 1961, states: "... anthropological 
files contain many examples of societies sure of their place in the universe, 
which have disintegrated when they had to associate with previously 
unfamiliar societies espousing different ideas and different life ways. 
Others that survived such an experience usually did so by paying the price of 
changes in values and attitudes and behavior." 
  


April 18, 1961, report for NASA by The Brookings Institution.

This is the idea of the Native Indian. When the white man came, that Indian 
society just fell apart. That's probably in the back ground of the briefings 
­ that this is a very likely scenario and would mean to the President, 'I['m 
just not going down this road.' This is something we'd have a hard time 
dealing with if it turns out to be true.


GRANT, DOES THIS MEAN THAT THERE IS NO DISCLOSURE ABOUT OTHER LIFE IN THE 
UNIVERSE IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE BECAUSE IT IS SO POLITICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO 
OPEN UP?


Yes, I think there are so many scenarios they are unsure of, or they know for 
a fact are going to cause trouble, that when you weigh the way the world is 
right now versus all the things that could go wrong! And a government wants 
to be in control. I always say disclosure is like a snowball going down a 
hill. Once you disclose ­ all you have to say is 'ETs are real.' The snowball 
starts going down the hill and you could get an avalanche. At that point, you 
can no longer control it and it's a situation where, for example, it green 
lights everything. If the President said, 'ETs are here, but I'm not going to 
talk about the rest of it.' That would automatically green light all the 
people that you've talked to, Linda; that I've talked to; all those inside 
the Intel community who say, 'OK, now it's open. The President has said this 
is for real.' They start talking and you can't control what they are going to 
say.


It's something that once it's out of the bag, it's out! Now they can control 
it by indirectly leaking material with misinformation to indirectly tell us 
what is going on. But once you confirm it, then you have this massive rush of 
reporters and people who demand answers and it's something you totally lose 
control over; the government wants to be in control. If you take a look at 
President Reagan when he was shot, the National Security Adviser advised 
minutes after Reagan was shot that the more people think things are normal, 
the better off we are going to be. You want to keep people thinking that 
nothing has changed. If you change the scenario ­ that's changed, this is 
changed ­ the stock market is moving down, a hundred different things ­ it 
gets out of control.


IT'S LIKE Orwell's 1984 IN WHICH THE LIE HAS BECOME THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH 
HAS BECOME THE LIE.


Yes.


HOW DO WE UPEND THAT AND HAVE THE TRUTH BE THE TRUTH?


Exactly. One of the scary things I've looked at for one of the possible 
reasons is:


25) Counter-measures - Space-based weapons to fight ETs. The government might 
actually be stupid enough to say that it can develop weapons in order to 
handle the alien situation by wiping them out ­ that we could actually win in 
a war against the aliens ­ that the government is working on counter-measures 
to go after the aliens. If that is true - and I think it looks like they 
actually are working on that kind of stuff - this is total stupidity. Clinton 
was asked after the movie Independence Day in 1996, 'Mr. President, do you 
think we would win a war against the aliens?' And he said, 'Yes, I think the 
people would come together and we would win.'


I hope he was joking when he said that, but that's a scary scenario that a lot 
of the secrecy is the fact that we are going to go to war against the aliens.


BUT HOW COULD WE ASSUME SUCH A POINT OF VIEW WHEN THE NON-HUMANS CAN 
NEUTRALIZE GRAVITY?


Exactly. We would have to make the assumption that they have a certain amount 
of technology to go to war and then find out that they have ten times that 
and they just wipe us off the map, which would be a scary scenario. And yet 
you look at the whole Star Wars "anti-missile shield" thing. It's being built 
and yet there is no country that can launch a missile against the United 
States and you sit there and ask: What are they (U.S. government) actually 
doing? Why are they spending billions and billions of dollars on this stuff 
that doesn't seem to work, but they are determined to get it up there and 
take a war into space?


 


U. S. National Missile Defense System - 
 "Unknown Anomaly" Causes Test Failure



Thursday, December 16, 2004, Page A16 Headline, Albuquerque Journal, 
Albuquerque, New Mexico. 



Editor's Note:  The phrase, "unknown anomaly" is reminiscent of a similar 
phrase, "peculiar phenomena" used by Lt. Col. Harold R. Turner to describe 
what caused the May 1947 White Sands V-2 rocket tests to veer off course. 


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